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VR Headset Comparisions - Everything You Need to Know
This list may be overwhelming if you're looking to get into VR for the first time. My advice would be to choose the most important factor to you like price point, tracking system, highest res/FOV/whatever and begin there. Then put together a list of everything around that focal point and fine tune it based on details and features. Then finally look up some reviews of the handful of HMDs you have left to whittle it down to the final one.
Format[Company] [Product] (horizontal FOV, screen res, screen type, bundle MSRP) - description
Headsets are listed newest to oldest in their respective categories. Only "gaming" headsets will be listed that have 6dof and adequate processing power to run games like Beat Saber. Very low-end headsets and very high-end enterprise headsets will not be listed here.
Discrete TrackingHeadsets that use external equipment for tracking. Tracking is extremely precise. If you take your gaming seriously, especially if you're into competitive gaming, it's worth paying extra for.
Notes about Valve's Lighthouse tracking: Lighthouse tracking is currently the best tracking on the market, being nearly flawless so long as you set it up properly and have no reflections in your playspace. Any Lighthouse devices can be mixed and matched (e.g. you can buy a Vive bundle and then replace the controllers with Index controllers, upgrade to a Pimax HMD, etc) but keep in mind that while Lighthouse 2.0 tracked devices are backward compatible with 1.0 basestations, 1.0 tracked devices will not work with 2.0 basestations. The technical differences between 1.0 and 2.0 are fairly unimportant for consumers. 2.0 allows you to use more than 2 basestations for warehouse scale tracking, 1.0 has an "FOV" of 120° horiz & vert while 2.0 has an "FOV" of 160° horiz & 115° vert, and 1.0 has 2 motors, horiz & vert, while 2.0 has 1 motor, diagonal, which means less power consumption and wear & tear issues with 2.0 in the long run.
Valve Index (130° [estimated], 2*1440x1600, LCD, $1000) - Uses Lighthouse 2.0 tracking. Screens can operate at 80, 90, 120 or 144Hz as opposed to the typical 90Hz for PCVR headsets. You will probably need a 1080Ti or better to get good performance at 120 or 144Hz, however. Screens are angled slightly from each other to achieve a higher FOV and they have one of the highest pixel fill rates to essentially eliminate SDE. Instead of integrated headphones, this HMD has integrated speakers that sit away from your ears and direct sound into them. They're directional and immersive like headphones but you can't actually feel them. The sound quality is pretty good. There are adjustments for eye relief and physical IPD. As for the mysterious cavity in the front of the HMD, there are currently no plans for it. Valve simply left this as a space for future modability. The Index controllers are probably the most ambitious controllers on the market with dual analog sticks, finger tracking for all 5 fingers, grip sensors that gauge how hard you're squeezing the controllers, straps that allow you to fully release the controllers, etc. There is some controversy over an issue where the sticks can't be clicked while being pushed in a direction and whether or not they're even supposed to be able to do that in the first place. All in all, the Index is packed full of some of the best features available for VR, some of which aren't available in any other headset, and it's one of the best options for high-end VR right now. (Personal note: the FOV doesn't seem much, if any, higher than the Vive but I still haven't seen any tests to determine the actual FOV so I'm leaving the estimated value up for now.)
Pimax 5k+ (170°, 2*2560x1440, CLPL, $700 HMD + $300 [not final] for controllers + basestations) - See below.
Pimax 8k (170°, 2*3840x2160, CLPL, $900 HMD + $300 [not final] for controllers + basestations) - Uses Lighthouse 2.0 tracking. Visually, two of the best headsets available right now (note the "2*" before the resolutions, these HMDs contain one entire screen per eye). There are a lot of positive reviews but some complaints about build quality. The weight on these large HMDs is kept down by using thinner plastics than other HMDs. Note, no integrated headphones despite the high cost. The software is also a bit more hands-on than SteamVR, requiring some tweaking and tuning, but it does have a custom motion smoothing feature that I hear works very well. Performance costs are much higher at native res but you can render at lower resolutions if need be. The 5k+ recommends a GTX 1070 or better and the 8k recommends a GTX 1080Ti or better. Also note that Pimax is taking preorders for controllers + basestations at a $300 deposit but the final price is unknown so the full bundle price is likely higher.
HTC Vive Pro (110°, 2880x1600, AMOLED, $1100 for "Starter Kit" or $1400 for full Lighthouse 2.0 setup) - The HMD uses Lighthouse 2.0 tracking. The Starter Kit comes with Lighthouse 1.0 controllers and basestations while the $1400 bundle comes with all Lighthouse 2.0 equipment. This and the Vive are also the only headsets that currently have a native wireless option if you buy the adapter ($300). This is largely regarded as being too overpriced for what you get compared to the OG Vive or the Pimax. It's basically just a Vive + DAS and a resolution bump. The controllers do have a wear & tear issue with the trackpad but it usually takes quite a few months of heavy use to become apparent and Beat Saber doesn't even use the trackpad. The issue is also a DIY fix if you're the DIY type. It's recommended you buy from a retail seller and not HTC directly since some people have had issues with their customer support. Also, for $1100 you can just buy a Vive bundle + Vive Pro HMD and get an extra HMD over the Starter Kit, if you want to go this route.
HTC Vive (discontinued) (110°, 2160x1200, PenTile OLED, $500) - Uses Lighthouse 1.0 tracking. The first HMD to make use of Lighthouse tracking and currently the cheapest to use it which are the main selling points. This and the Vive Pro are also the only headsets that currently have a native wireless option if you buy the adapter ($300). The controllers do have a wear & tear issue with the trackpad but it usually takes quite a few months of heavy use to become apparent and Beat Saber doesn't even use the trackpad. The issue is also a DIY fix if you're the DIY type. It's recommended you buy from a retail seller and not HTC directly since some people have had issues with their customer support.
Oculus Rift (discontinued) (90°, 2160x1200, OLED, $350 for 2 sensor bundle + $60 for third sensor) - Uses Constellation tracking which use infrared-sensing webcams. Generally considered to have the best controllers at the time. A third sensor is highly recommended for 360 roomscale which isn't necessary for Beat Saber but is worth factoring in for other games. The setup is the messiest, with 3 sensors and the HMD all connected to the PC via USB. There is a minor issue with loose batteries causing tracking issues at high level play but it's easily fixed (threads recommend a #86 hardware spring be added to the battery compartment). Lastly, this is a Facebook-owned device. (See: "The Facebook Controversy" at the bottom of this post)
Inside-Out TrackingHeadsets that have depth-sensing cameras built into them which track the player moving about their playspace as well as the controllers. Tracking is less precise than discrete tracking, especially when controllers are out of view of the cameras, but it tends to be fine for casual use. Serious gamers will want to avoid inside-out, however. Also note that discrete tracking tends to use infrared while inside-out uses visible light for roomscale tracking which means inside-out tracking headsets have to be used in well-lit environments.
HTC Cosmos (?, ?, ?, ?) - This headset is primarily a PCVR headset but it can also be connected to "other devices" (most likely HTC smartphones) to act as a semi-standalone. This uses a new controller design very similar to Rift so it has better ergonomics than the Vive wands and hopefully doesn't have any other issues but reviews will have to come in first. It's recommended you buy from a retail seller and not HTC directly since some people have had issues with their customer support.
Acer ConceptD OJO (WMR) (?, 4320x2160, ?, $400) - Not yet released so I don't have a lot of info on it. A WMR headset with integrated headphones and higher specs than previous WMR headsets. It does still rely on 2 cameras and software IPD adjustment, though. Note that WMR requires Win10.
HP Reverb (WMR) (114° [not confirmed horizontal FOV], 2*2160x2160, LCD, $650) - Not yet released so I don't have a lot of info on it. A WMR headset with much higher specs than previous WMR headsets that was due out in April. I'll update this section when I know more. Note that WMR requires Win10.
Oculus Rift S ("slightly larger than 90°", 2560x1440, LCD, $400) - Uses Oculus Insight tracking with 5 cameras. One step forward and one step back (maybe two steps back if you care a lot about tracking). The optics have definately been improved over the Rift with a higher res panel and less SDE but tracking takes a huge hit. The tracking seems to be better than WMR headsets and the Rift when the controllers are in view of the cameras but it quickly loses tracking when occluded. In Beat Saber this can happen during songs with crossovers and I've also heard of issues with rifle poses so shooters suffer, as well. This is the best inside-out tracking currently available but it still has the same issues as WMR in the end. Also note that the FOV is barely improved over the Rift and so both HMDs have some of the lowest FOV out of all PCVR headsets. The tiny integrated speakers also sound terrible according to just about everyone and because of the halo headstrap design, it's not easy to wear full headphones with this. This HMD also has no physical IPD adjustment and it runs at 80Hz instead of the fairly standard 90Hz of most other PCVR HMDs. Lastly, this is a Facebook-owned device. (See: "The Facebook Controversy" at the bottom of this post)
Samsung Odyssey/Odyssey+ (WMR) (110°, 2880x1600, AMOLED, $430) - The Odysseys cost a bit more than typical WMR headsets but they come with a slight resolution bump, AMOLED screen, integrated headphones and physical IPD adjustment. The Odyssey+ is the same as the Odyssey on a technical level but it does have a number of improvements for comfort as well as anti-SDE technology that makes the image look much better. This is probably the best WMR headset if you can get it on sale around $300. Note that WMR requires Win10 and replacement controllers are very difficult to find.
Windows Mixed Reality (WMR) (95-110°, 2880x1440, LCD, ~$250-300) - The cheapest viable option available for PCVR at the time of this writing. WMR is a platform that's licensed to various companies and they have minor differences but are all pretty similar. This listing encompasses all WMR headsets that use the same basic template which are made by Acer, Lenovo, Dell and HP. The Lenovo Explorer is generally considered the slightly better of these options. All of these headsets use 2 cameras for tracking and they all have software IPD adjustment. Note that WMR requires Win10 and replacement controllers are very difficult to find.
Standalone HeadsetsHeadsets that don't require a VR-capable PC to run. These use inside-out tracking so they have all the pros and cons of the previous category as well as the "pro" of not needing a VR-capable PC and the "con" of not being able to run all PCVR games.
HTC Cosmos (sort of) - See "Inside-Out Tracking" section.
Oculus Quest (90°, 2880x1600, OLED, $400) - Uses Oculus Insight tracking with 4 cameras. This is the only real gaming standalone at the time of this writing so it's the only real choice if you don't have a VR-capable PC or PS4. It's also handy if you want a second HMD to take on the road or move around a lot without bringing a PC with you. This shares a lot of design elements with the Rift S: good optics, low FOV, inside-out tracking that works well when the controllers are in view of the cameras but quickly lose tracking when occluded and tiny integrated speakers. This HMD doesn't have a halo headstrap, though, so you can easily wear headphones with it. Beat Saber is available for the Quest and custom songs do work but it does not have crossbuy with the PC version so you'll have to buy a second copy. The DLC music packs are crossbuy, though, so you only have to buy each pack once. Lastly, this is a Facebook-owned device. (See: "The Facebook Controversy" at the bottom of this post)
Console HeadsetsThere's not much of a decision to make between PCVR and console VR at the time of this writing but I'll list them just for the sake of comparisons. If you have a VR-capable PC then you're better off getting a PCVR headset. Console VR is a great introduction, well worth it if you don't have a VR-capable PC, but it's just not quite as good. Hopefully in the future this changes.
Nintendo Labo (?, 1280x720, LCD, ~$40-80 [non-bundle price]) - This is a toy, not a gaming headset, and doesn't really have a place on this list but I'm including it for the sake of comparison. Aside from being low fidelity, the Switch doesn't have any real tracking to speak of. The Joy-cons have internal PIDs much like a smartphone but this is not adequate for a gaming VR set up since they only technically provide 3dof. However, Nintendo being Nintendo, they came up with an innovative elephant Labo kit which allows the software to calculate 6dof based on the 3dof of the PID + the geometry of the elephant design. It's hackey but I hear it actually works alright, all things considered.
Sony PSVR (100°, 1920x1080, AMOLED, $350) - Uses recycled PSMove hardware for tracking and controllers which is it's biggest downside. The display is actually pretty good despite the lower resolution and horsepower compared to PCVR but the tracking only uses one compound webcam which means it can't do 360 roomscale and even front-facing can be troublesome, especially in small playspaces. For this reason, many of the games developed for it are seated + gamepad which is not the best way to experience VR. It's still worth getting if PCVR isn't an option, however.
The Facebook ControversyI decided to make this it's own section instead of appending it to every Oculus device. If you don't care, ignore it, but plenty of people do care so it's important for first-time buyers to know. There are two major reasons a lot of people dislike Facebook's involvement in VR and they refuse to support Oculus since Facebook owns Oculus (full disclosure: I am one of those people but I've tried to avoid letting my bias tilt this write-up).
Exclusivity and the "Walled Garden" Approach to Games - Facebook is in favor of locking games to their own headsets despite the fact that PC is an open platform and there's no reason to turn headsets into console wars. It's like having games that only work on certain monitors. It doesn't benefit consumers, only hardware manufacturers. Furthermore, locking games to specific headsets means you won't be able to play those games in the future if you buy a different brand. Currently you can get around this by using a program called ReVive (it works on more headsets than just the Vive, btw) but there's nothing saying that ReVive will always be an option. Your games are locked inside the walled garden and you have to stay there to play them. This applies to anything you buy through the Oculus store.
Facebook's Track Record for Privacy and Misconduct - Facebook is a terrible company. Lots of companies do greedy things from time to time but Facebook is one of the worst offenders by a long shot. They've also allowed themselves to collect a lot of unnecessary data from Rift owners and share it with third party companies per the EULA. Granted, they haven't actually started collecting this data but because Rift owners have already agreed to it, they could switch it on at anytime without warning. There are plenty of articles regarding Facebook's misdeeds but I'll just post a few here:
Breaking Apple's TOS to collect data from teens
Purposefully tricking children into spending their parent's money via "friendly-fraud-minor"
A History of privacy and content misconduct
The Complete Roger Stone Timeline, Part II: The Coverup
(See also... Part I: The Campaign)
Part II: The Coverup
Jan. 6, 2017 The US government releases the unclassified version of an intelligence community report concluding that Russia carried out a comprehensive cyber campaign to sabotage the presidential election that was ordered by Putin and sought to help elect Trump.
Jan. 13, 2017 The Senate intelligence committee announces an investigation into Russian interference and any contacts with the Trump campaign.
Stranahan messages the GRU hackers through Twitter purportedly seeking an interview.
Sometime between this date and March 1, Corsi deletes from his computer all email correspondence that predated October 11, 2016, including Stone’s email from July 31 and Corsi's email to Malloch.
Jan. 25, 2017 The House intelligence committee announces its own investigation.
Feb. 18, 2017 Stone gives an interview to Russian propaganda outlet RT denying contact with Russian intelligence. Stone says he is in regular contact with Trump:
I have talked to him from time to time, but I consider these conversations to be private and privileged. And I’m not going to violate that trust by discussing them. I’ve been a friend of Donald Trump for 40 years, have great affection for him and his family, and frankly I’m just honored to have been a small part of the biggest upset in American political history.Mar. 4, 2017 Stone tweets that he had a “perfectly legal back channel to Assange.”
Mar. 8, 2017 The Smoking Gun publishes an article claiming a source who says Stone exchanged private messages with Guccifer 2.0 during the campaign. Stone says he does not recall any private exchanges.
Mar. 20, 2017 FBI Director James Comey testifies to the House committee about Russian interference in the 2016 election and publicly confirms that there is an existing counterintelligence investigation into links to the Trump campaign.
I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts.Stone is mentioned by name nineteen times during the hearing.
That evening, McClatchy reports that investigators are examining coordination between the Russians and far-right news sites, including Breitbart and InfoWars, as well as RT and Sputnik.
Mar. 22, 2017 Stranahan leaves Breitbart claiming he quit over being prohibited from covering the White House. Shortly after, the Atlantic reports that Stranahan will work for Sputnik:
I think the whole narrative trying to tie Trump to Russia is a huge problem.Apr. 13, 2017 Stone tells The Washington Post that he is in regular contact with Trump.
We talk from time to time. We talk politics. Beyond that, I'm not going to characterize it because if I do then that indiscretion would most likely mean that those conversations would end.Apr. 23, 2017 Stone tells an audience at the Tribeca Film Festival that he has regular contact with Trump.
Asked if he still advises Trump, Stone replies that he talks to Trump “from time to time”:
I certainly wouldn’t divulge the content of those conversations or they would end. The president needs to be able to get advice and not have it end up on the front page of The New York Times.May 2017 The House committee requests that Stone testify and provide documents and material that might pertain to their investigation.
May 9, 2017 Trump fires Comey. CNN reports that a source (possibly Stone himself) says that Stone was among those who told Trump to fire Comey.
May 10, 2017 In the final message of his morning tweetstorm, Trump denies any contact with Stone.
The Roger Stone report on @CNN is false - Fake News. Have not spoken to Roger in a long time - had nothing to do with my decision.A White House spokesperson contacts CNN to reiterate:
The President has not spoken to Roger Stone in many months and any reports suggesting otherwise are categorically untrue.Trump meets privately with Russia's foreign minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in the Oval Office and discusses his decision to fire Comey:
I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.May 11, 2017 Trump tells Lester Holt that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation:
And in fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, 'you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.'~May 12, 2017 The FBI opens a counterintelligence investigating into whether Trump is working on behalf of Russia against American interests.
May 22, 2017 Stone replies to the House committee, saying that he has no relevant documents.
May 31, 2017 Alex Jones announces that Stone will anchor a new nightly show on InfoWars.
July 14, 2017 Caputo testifies to the House committee and says he had no contacts with Russians during his time on the campaign. He does not mention Greenberg.
Sept. 7, 2017 Donald Trump Jr. testifies to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Q. Do you know if any of the following people made any efforts to obtain Secretary Clinton's e-mails. [...] Roger Stone?Credico meets Assange in person at the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
A. No idea.
Q. Did you ever have a conversation with Mr. Stone about e-mails or other information obtained as part of a cyber attack on the DNC or Mr. Podesta or about Hillary Clinton's e-mails?
A. I don't recall having a conversation with Roger Stone basically past the first week or two of our campaign.
Q. So that would have been in 2015?
Q. June of 2015?
A. I didn't really deal with Roger too much.
Q. Who did deal with Roger?
A. I don't know if anyone did. I don't know that he had an actual role in our campaign.
Q. Did he communicate directly with your father?
A. I don't know.
Sept. 26, 2017 Stone testifies before the House committee. In his testimony he denies that Russia was involved in hacking the DNC and says that he didn’t know about the “source or actual content” of any WikiLeaks releases.
Asked if it's true that he has no emails about the hacked documents or discussions about Assange, Stone says he does not. Asked about his claim to have an intermediary with Assange, Stone describes his interactions with Credico without naming him. Stone also denies having contacted anyone within the Trump campaign about conversations with his intermediary.
During one exchange, Stone falsely and misleadingly claims only to have spoken with his intermediary telephonically:
Q: [H]ow did you communicate with the intermediary?Later during his testimony, Stone again falsely denies ever communicating with his intermediary in writing:
A: Over the phone.
Q: And did you have any other means of communicating with the intermediary?
Q: No text messages, no – none of the list, right?
Q: So you never communicated with your intermediary in writing in any way?Notably, Stone and Credico exchange more than 30 text messages on this very day.
Q: Never emailed him or texted him?
A: He’s not an email guy.
Q: So all your conversations with him were in person or over the phone.
Sept. 27, 2017 Stone registers an internet domain for a legal defense fund.
Oct. 13, 2017 In a letter to the House committee, Stone identifies Credico by name as his intermediary.
Oct. 19, 2017 Stone emails Credico a portion of the letter he’d sent to the House committee, asking that Credico confirm untrue parts of his testimony. Credico declines, recommending Stone correct his testimony.
Oct. 29, 2017 Stone's Twitter account is permanently suspended.
November 2017 Credico is asked to testify before the House committee.
Nov. 19, 2017 Stone texts Credico:
'Stonewall it. Plead the fifth. Anything to save the plan' ... Richard Nixon.This is a reference to Nixon's order to cover up the Watergate break-in.
Nov. 20, 2017 Credico declines the invitation to testify.
Nov. 21, 2017 Credico tells Stone that an attorney for the House committee threatened to subpoena him.
That was the point at which your lawyers should have told them you would assert your 5th Amendment rights if compelled to appear.Nov. 28, 2017 Credico is subpoenaed. Stone learns of the subpoena the same day.
Nov. 30, 2017 Stone asks Corsi to write publicly about Credico.
Are you sure you want to make something out of this now? Why not wait to see what [Credico] does? You may be defending yourself too much – raising new questions that will fuel new inquiries. This may be a time to say less, not more.Stone responds that Credico “will take the 5th—but let’s hold a day.”
Dec. 1, 2017 Stone tells Credico to imitate Frank Pentangeli, a character from “The Godfather: Part II,” who refused to testify during a government investigation.
STONE: And if you turned over anything to the FBI you’re a fool.Dec. 6, 2017 Trump Jr. testifies to the House committee.
CREDICO: You need to amend your testimony before I testify on the 15th.
STONE: If you testify you’re a fool. Because of tromp I could never get away with a certain my Fifth Amendment rights but you can. I guarantee you you are the one who gets indicted for perjury if you’re stupid enough to testify.
Dec. 12, 2017 Credico informs the House committee that he will assert his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination if required to appear.
Dec. 24, 2017 Credico texts Stone encouraging him to change his story.
CREDICO: I met [Assange] for frst time this yea sept 7 . . . docs prove that. . . . You should be honest w fbi . . . there was no back channel . . . be honest.Fox News announces that Rosen suddenly left the network after an 18-year career, purportedly due to allegations of sexual harassment.
STONE: I’m not talking to the FBI and if your smart you won’t either.
Jan. 6, 2018 Stone texts Credico:
I am working with others to get [Assange] a blanket pardon. It’s very real and very possible. Don’t fuck it up.Thirty-five minutes later, Stone adds, “Something very big about to go down.”
Credico later claims that Stone says he was working with Napolitano on a plan in which Napolitano would float the idea on his Fox News show or directly to Trump. “He was trying to get me not to talk,” Credico contends. Stone confirms that he spoke to Napolitano about the issue, which Napolitano denies.
Jan. 16, 2018 Bannon testifies to the House committee but reportedly provides little information.
Feb. 15, 2018 Bannon again testifies to the House committee but reportedly invokes executive privilege to avoid discussing matters related to the presidential transition.
Feb. 22, 2018 Mueller's office interviews Nunberg.
Feb. 23, 2018 Gates pleads guilty to lying and conspiracy against the United States and is revealed to be cooperating with the investigation.
March 5, 2018 Nunberg goes on cable television and says he will not comply with a subpoena from Mueller's grand jury.
What they sent me was absolutely ridiculous. They wanted every e-mail I had with Roger Stone and Steve Bannon. Why should I hand them e-mails from November 1, 2015 [forward]?
I’m not going to cooperate when they . . . want me to come in to a grand jury, for them to insinuate that Roger Stone was colluding with Julian Assange. Roger is my mentor. Roger is like family to me. I’m not going to do it.March 9, 2018 Nunberg testifies to Mueller's grand jury. Mueller obtains a probable cause search warrant to obtain the records of 5 AT&T phones.
March 10, 2018 Credico complains to Stone of financial troubles that his connection to Stone has caused him:
You cost me whatever relationship I had with Bill Samuels I have not heard from him in a month.Stone responds that he “didn’t know Samuels let u go….u should have said something if u needed work.” Stone later offers to connect Credico with a job opportunity in Florida.
Credico later claims Stone also offered to help him pay his legal fees in what Credico believed was an effort to stop him from contradicting Stone:
He knew that I was upset. He wanted me to be quiet. He wanted me to go along with his narrative. He didn’t want me talking to the press and saying what I was saying.March 28, 2018 FBI agents detain, interrogate and serve a search warrant on Malloch at Boston's Logan airport. He is questioned about his involvement in the Trump campaign, Stone and WikiLeaks, and served a subpoena to testify to Mueller's grand jury in April, which is later postponed.
Corsi is quickly alerted by Malloch and publicizes the news in an “emergency” broadcast on InfoWars.
March 29, 2018 Stone, appearing intoxicated, posts a threatening video:
This is Roger Stone. Sam Nunberg is a cocaine addict and any news organization that takes anything he said seriously is courting a serious lawsuit.April 2, 2018 WSJ reports on Stone's August 4, 2016, email to Nunberg stating he "dined with Assange".
April 3, 2018 A right-wing conspiracy site publishes an unattributed essay that quotes Stone extensively, pushing back against the idea that he had any contact with Assange. The essay claims that Stone provided documents showing his general whereabouts on Aug. 1-4, 2016.
The pro-Trump Daily Caller publishes an "exclusive" article that describes some of the same documents.
April 7, 2018 Stone emails Credico, accusing him of serving as an informant.
You are the last person I would have thought would help the Deep State fuck Assange — wearing a fucking wire. Everyone is says u are wearing a wire for Mueller.April 8, 2018 In an email to Stone, Credico said Stone’s public comments attacking him “crossed a line,” adding that he believed Stone had lied to the House Intelligence Committee.
You got nothing [...] You did everything I said you did. [...] Did you really think you could shit all over me on MSNBC and I would do nothing[?]Stone taunts Credico's left-leaning politics and struggles with substance abuse:
Do another rail!
[I] Just put $2,000 behind another ad on Facebook targeting progressives.April 9, 2018 Credico and Stone exchange emails that read in part:
CREDICO: yiu invented yourself into the story. yiu played no role in 2016... all will come out.
STONE: I am so ready. Let’s get it on. Prepare to die cock sucker.
STONE: You are a rat. A stoolie. You backstab your friends-run your mouth my lawyers are dying Rip you to shredsStone adds, “I’m going to take that dog away from you,” referring to Credico’s “therapy” dog, a Coton de Tulear named Bianca.
Not a fucking thing you can do about it either because you are a weak broke piece of shit.He later releases a public video threatening the pet.
Other early-April emails include:
Everything I have said publicly about You has been complimentary – yet you continue to act like Nunberg.
Give Mueller my regards.May 1, 2018 Caputo testifies to the Senate intelligence committee.
May 2, 2018 Mueller's office interviews Caputo and he is shown copies of the May 2016 texts to Stone about Greenberg.
May 3, 2018 CNBC reports that Mueller is focusing intensely on interactions between Gates and Stone, including at multiple dinners before and during the campaign.
May 7, 2018 Stone publicly attempts to downplay his contacts with Gates.
May 10, 2018 Mueller's office serves two grand jury subpoenas on long-time Stone associate Andrew Miller, who worked for Stone during the 2016 campaign. Miller agrees to give a voluntary interview on May 14.
May 11, 2018 Attorney Alicia Dearn contacts Mueller's office, saying she is "considering" representing Miller and that he no longer wished to meet on May 14.
May 14, 2018 Mueller attempts to contact Dearn to inquire about her representation of Miller.
May 16, 2018 Reuters reports that two subpoenas were served on Jason Sullivan, a social media expert who worked for Stone, late the previous week. One requests that Sullivan appear before a grand jury on May 18 and the other orders Sullivan to bring documents, objects and electronically stored information.
May 18, 2018 Miller fails to appear before the grand jury. An employee for Dearn says Dearn will contact Mueller's office on May 21.
Reuters reports that a subpoena was recently served on John Kakanis, who had worked as a driver, accountant and operative for Stone. Stone's Committee to Restore America's Greatness super PAC paid a company owned by Kakanis more than $130,000 for “voter fraud research and documentation” and “research services consulting.”
May 21, 2018 Credico writes to Stone:
You should have just been honest with the house Intel committee ... you’ve opened yourself up to perjury charges like an idiot.Dearn fails to contact Mueller's office.
May 23, 2018 Mueller's office emails Dearn a second set of subpoenas on Miller demanding testimony on June 1. The date is eventually postponed to June 8.
May 27, 2018 Stone writes to Credico:
I'll still piss on your grave. You are exposed as a liar who wears women's underwear. You never discussed being interrogated by Schiff with Assange — caught in another lie. Any time. You and me. Your are a chickenshit coward but justice will find you soon.June 1, 2018 Sullivan testifies to Mueller's grand jury. Sullivan says he worked for Stone’s Committee to Restore America’s Greatness super PAC during the final four months of the 2016 campaign, assisting with social media strategy namely around Twitter.
“Welcome To The Age of Weaponized Social Media,” said a strategy document Sullivan prepared for Stone that described a “system” he devised for creating Twitter “swarms” as “an army of sophisticated, hyper-targeted direct tweet automation systems driven by outcomes-based strategies derived from REAL-TIME actionable insights.”
June 11, 2018 After Miller fails to appear on June 8, Mueller's office twice requests an immediate response from Dearn. She responds the following day but continues to delay a substantive response.
June 15, 2018 Caputo amends his House testimony to acknowledge his contact with Greenberg.
June 17, 2018 WaPo publishes an article revealing the May 2016 meeting between Stone and Greenberg. In interviews prior to publication, Stone claims to WaPo that Greenberg had not revealed the information he claimed to possess and wanted Trump to pay $2 million for access.
Stone also provides a excerpt from a May 29, 2016, conversation with Caputo that he claims shows that nothing came of the meeting:
CAPUTO: How crazy is the Russian?Stone claims to WaPo that Greenberg was alone. Interviewed separately, Greenberg first denies meeting Stone, then acknowledges the contact but tells a conflicting version of events, including that he was with a Ukrainian friend who was the one who actually spoke to Stone. “Alexei talk to Mr. Stone, not me,” he wrote. He added that he believes Alexei has moved back to Ukraine and that they are not in contact.
STONE: Wants big &$ for the info- waste of time
CAPUTO: The Russian way. Anything at all interesting?
In their WaPo interviews, Stone and Caputo each imply a groundless theory that Greenberg had been sent by the FBI to frame them and the Trump campaign. Stone posts an article pushing the entrapment theory, which is amplified across right-wing media:
If you read this report in the corporate media, they spin it as “more Russian connections” but no – it’s more anti-Trump informants using non-Russian names while trying to offer the campaign information, with the hope that they can later reveal their actual Russian background to create the illusion of the campaign’s “Russian collusion.”June 18, 2018 A court orders Miller to appear before Mueller's grand jury on June 28.
Mid-June 2018 Calling Stone "a corned rat," Credico tells The Villager that he handed over his personal computer and cell phone to "a national magazine" (presumably Dan Friedman at Mother Jones).
Undated excerpts include:
You are a pathetic loser. Let's see who's around a year from now and who isn't cocksucker.
Why does your breath smell like Ari Melber's ass?
Barrett rots in hell and you shall soon join him. It's over! You lose!Wayne Barrett was a veteran investigative journalist who passed away in 2017 after publishing an unflattering biography of Donald Trump the previous year.
June 28, 2018 Refusing to testify, Miller names new counsel, Paul Kamenar, who files a motion to quash the subpoenas on the grounds that Mueller's appointment violates the US constitution. The motion explicitly incorporates the arguments advanced by the financier of the Russian troll farm that Mueller is prosecuting separately.
Kamenar came to Miller via Caputo and is paid by a far-right legal group run by provocateur Peter Flaherty and funded largely by the Scaife Foundations.
July 13, 2018 Mueller reveals an indictment against 12 GRU officers for the 2016 hack of the DNC. The indictment lays out detailed accusations of the Russian government’s interference in the 2016 election and describes a litany of brazen Russian subterfuge operations meant to foment chaos in the months before Election Day.
July 16, 2018 After spending two hours in a room with only Vladimir Putin and a pair of interpreters, Trump stands next to Putin in Helsinki and publicly rejects the findings of his intelligence agencies and federal prosecutors:
I have President Putin. He just said it’s not Russia. I will say this. I don’t see any reason why it would be ... I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that president Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. And what he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators, with respect to the 12 people. I think that’s an incredible offer.
I think that the probe is a disaster for our country. I think it’s kept us apart. It’s kept us separated. There was no collusion at all. Everybody knows it.“No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant,” wrote Senator John McCain.
July 31, 2018 DC district court Chief Judge Howell denies Miller's motion and orders him to testify.
Aug. 1, 2018 Mueller's office interviews long-time Stone associate Kristin Davis, who did work for Stone during the 2016 campaign.
Aug. 10, 2018 Davis testifies to Mueller's grand jury. Judge Howell holds Miller in contempt for refusing to testify. Miller vows to appeal.
Aug. 28, 2018 Corsi is served a subpoena from Mueller's grand jury.
Sept. 6, 2018 Corsi is interviewed by Mueller's office. He admits that Stone asked him to get in touch with WikiLeaks about unreleased stolen documents, but tells the following lies:
- That he declined the request from Stone and made clear to him that trying to contact WikiLeaks could be subject to investigation,
- That Stone never asked him to have Malloch try to get in contact with WikiLeaks,
- That he told Stone that they should just wait until WikiLeaks released any materials,
- That after that initial request from Stone, he did not know what Stone did with respect to WikiLeaks,
- That he never provided Stone with any information regarding Wikileaks, including what materials WikiLeaks possessed or what WikiLeaks might do with those materials.
Sept. 14, 2018 Manafort pleads guilt to financial crimes and enters into a plea deal. He meets with Mueller's office at least nine times over the next few weeks.
Sept. 21, 2018 Corsi testifies to Mueller's grand jury after being subpoenaed.
Oct. 26, 2018 Manafort testifies to Mueller's grand jury.
Nov. 2, 2018 Manafort again testifies to Mueller's grand jury.
Corsi again testifies to Mueller's grand jury. He is reportedly pulled out of the proceedings after refusing answer questions truthfully.
Nov. 8, 2018 The DC Circuit Court of Appeals hears arguments in Miller's subpoena challenge.
Nov. 15, 2018 Trump amplifies Corsi's recent public protests against the investigation:
The inner workings of the Mueller investigation are a total mess. They have found no collusion and have gone absolutely nuts. They are screaming and shouting at people, horribly threatening them to come up with the answers they want. They are a disgrace to our Nation and don’t care how many lives the ruin. These are Angry People, including the highly conflicted Bob Mueller, who worked for Obama for 8 years. They won’t even look at all of the bad acts and crimes on the other side. A TOTAL WITCH HUNT LIKE NO OTHER IN AMERICAN HISTORY!Nov. 26, 2018 Corsi publicly rejects a plea deal on one count of perjury and releases the draft statement of the offence provided by Mueller's office.
Dec. 18, 2018 Trump tweets about Stone:
“I will never testify against Trump.” This statement was recently made by Roger Stone, essentially stating that he will not be forced by a rogue and out of control prosecutor to make up lies and stories about “President Trump.” Nice to know that some people still have “guts!”Jan. 23, 2019 Calling him "Lyin' Jerry Corsi", Stone posts a letter from InfoWars to Corsi, informing Corsi that he will no longer be receiving $15,000/month in "salary continuation". Corsi supposedly became InfoWars' Washington bureau chief in early 2018, but each party involved has given conflicting accounts of the details.
Jan. 24, 2019 Corsi's stepson, Andrew Stettner, testifies to Mueller's grand jury after being subpoenaed.
Mueller's grand jury returns a seven count indictment against Stone: one count of Obstruction of Proceedings, five counts of False Statements and one count of Witness Tampering. The indictment against Stone is classified as "related" to the July 2018 indictment against the 12 GRU officers.
Jan. 25, 2019 Stone is arrested by FBI agents at his home in Florida. He later releases footage of the arrest to Trump-friendly Sinclair Broadcast Group in an effort to gain public sympathy.
Jan. 29, 2019 Stone is arraigned and pleads not guilty to all charges. He is released on a $250,000 signature bond.
Mueller's office informs Miller that his grand jury testimony is still necessary.
Jan. 31, 2019 Trump tells NYT he never spoke to Stone about WikiLeaks :
NYT: Speaking of former aides, we wanted to talk to you about Stone.
TRUMP: Sure, now you know Roger didn’t work for me in the campaign.
NYT: Initially and then he —
TRUMP: Well, yeah, but that was before I — you know, that was either early primary or before primary.
NYT: It was August or September .
TRUMP: That was a long time. I will say this, I’ve always liked — I like Roger, he’s a character. But I like Roger. For a team of 29 people with AK27s, or whatever they were using, to charge a house like they did at 6:00 in the morning. I think that was a very sad thing for this country.
NYT: Did you ever talk to him about WikiLeaks? Because that seemed —
NYT: You never had conversations with him.
TRUMP: No, I didn’t. I never did.
NYT: Did you ever tell him to — or other people to get in touch with them?
TRUMP: Never did.
TRUMP: He was not my consultant. But if you read the papers you know it’s like — the media, it’s like — but I’ve always liked him. He’s a character, and I’ll tell you what people respect what he said. Bearing false witness, etc. But yeah, people do respect what he said.Mueller's office files a motion to slow down the discovery process, noting that prosecutors intend to provide evidence "both voluminous and complex":
NYT: What he said about what?
TRUMP: Bear false witness. I will never testify against the president. He actually said at one time — you know he’s said it numerous times, but I heard him say it one time 'he’s done a great job, he’s a great president, and I will not, you know, lie in order to' — people respect that so much. They respect that.
It is composed of multiple hard drives containing several terabytes of information consisting of, among other things, FBI case reports, search warrant applications and results (e.g., Apple iCloud accounts and email accounts), bank and financial records, and the contents of numerous physical devices (e.g., cellular phones, computers, and hard drives). The communications contained in the iCloud accounts, email accounts, and physical devices span several years. The government also intends to produce to the defense the contents of physical devices recently seized from his home, apartment, and office. Those devices are currently undergoing a filter review by the FBI for potentially privileged communications.Feb. 7, 2019 Corsi files a defamation suit against Stone.
Feb. 18, 2019 Stone posts a picture of the judge overseeing his case with threatening language, calling her assignment to the case "legal trickery" by "Deep State hitman Robert Mueller".
Feb. 27, 2019 Cohen testifies publicly that he overheard a conversation between Stone and Trump on July 18 or 19, 2016, about upcoming WikiLeaks releases.